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A brilliant and outragously funny satire of society, 7 December 1999
Author: Dave Joerg ([email protected])
"Flodder" is one of the funniest movies ever made and few people realise that it is a Dutch movie made by none other than the Holland version of John Carpenter, the famous Dick Maas, author and director of the thriller "Amsterdamned". The Flodder family is the reincarnation of the term a-social. When the whole family bunch, basically all bastards, criminals and sluts must be relocated from their City slum because of toxic waste under their house, the city council house no choice. The only available space is in the "Zoendal" - the "Sun Valley" the best area in Amsterdam where all doctors, snobs and businessmen can afford to live their lives. And where the central point of interest and politics is the tennis club of the community. The Flodder family brings devastation to the tranquil world that ruled before. They are simply unbelievable. The characterisation is incredibly funny, beginning with Ma Flodder who searches other people's trash cans for food or making illegal liquor in her cellar and ending with the eldest daughter who is the biggest slut on earth. Together they make the most horrible family imaginable, a sort of immoral mirror image to the Brady Bunch or the Waltons. When the City counsel of Amsterdam hoped that the Flodders would show their good will to be more civilised in their new area, it turns out that Holland's most famous family would rather bring out the worst in the rich people of "Sun Valley"-wonderland. The rest is a hilarious, brilliant and well made social satire that can be watched as a provocative movie as well as a straightforward comedy. Dick Maas at his best. I salute him! Flooder was the Dutch smash hit in 1986 and brought two sequels and a tv series. All of the sequels were nice but not as great as the original.
Flodders (1986) is available on DVD in Germany in a dubbed German version in Dolby Digital 5.1. under the name:
"Flodders -Eine Familie zum knutschen"
Why is First Floor Features, the producer of the movie not bringing the Dick Maas blockbusters out on DVD in the Netherlands, I wonder. The are not even available on video there. These movies have so much potential, still to this day and have a huge silent but true following.
或许在社会氛围和群像塑造上还得再下点功夫 至少让观众理解这荒诞麻木的架空社会
应该没有什么反转，活的就是复制体，最后一场戏，本体衣服是羽绒服毛内衣黑裤系带鞋，最后出现的人，外衣和鞋子是本体的但内衣裤子都是复制体的，如果活的是本体根本没必要去换复制体的内衣裤子。所以很可能是复制体毒杀本体后换走了相对容易更换的衣鞋，且后面跟裁判描述车祸时用的也是不懂车的语言。最后哭应该是活下来后承担了本体的债务和人生感到的痛苦。，，，，至于为什么复制体要冒充本体，可以理解为如果是本体失踪那么作为尚无人权的复制体面临的后果可能很严重，而反之则相对容易。
印象最深的是那只狗子的眼神，和女主带着颤音的“why”。倾向于活下来的是本体，不过开放式结局怎么分析都说得通
跟天鹅挽歌差不多的主题，只是我看了半天，实在没有找到女主有啥理由在临死前复制一个自己，你的生活愉快吗？家庭幸福吗？这样的你还有必要延续吗？想不通......所以最后被复制体毒死好像也没什么意外。
看评论区都在争论活下来的是本体还是复制体，这也是我的疑惑，我觉得是本体吧，但她那开车技术很不熟练的样子，而且最后环岛的路还走错，如果是复制体她对Peter和妈妈的态度又充满怨恨….我内心希望是本体活下来，毕竟训练了一年，而且她做测试题就错在了一道中毒身亡上，难道都有前车之鉴了还能蠢成这样（但是女主性格是那种很容易move on的人也说不定真的这么蠢）一开始很难接受影片中的人物好像都是情感抽离的，后来发现可能是故意的，影片风格如此，所谓黑色幽默？虽然我完全get不到幽默的点，一直有一种隐隐的操蛋荒诞感，让人压抑得难受，但看完能让人思考一下留下印象而不是很快遗忘至少还是成功的影片
让克隆人替代本尊进入本尊死后的生活，这从根本上不是延续而是否定。
首先我承认我脏了，多次提到性我以为和教练的互惠协议也会是性结果却是紧凑剧情里难得的幽默桥段，又多了一重反转。现代法律尊重个体赋予新身份是更合理的方式，片里选择了复古的决斗，用这种荒谬的生存决斗为前提展开故事，最后是本体还是复制体怎么说都有可佐证的细节，但由于在车内哭泣，哪种结局都充满了绝望感
又商业 又文艺 两边表现都不太够 看着玩可以
啥啊 啥啊 这本体活该gg 太容易被骗了吧 姐
挺喜欢这种设定的 能Get到表达的意思但还是纠结最后谁死了…
讽刺意味深长的片子。
女主压根儿不是个讨人喜欢的人 说话语速过快 从来板着脸 比机器人都不如 讽刺的是训练一年后竟然还被闲闲不练的替身给玩阴的毒死（我选择相信活下来的是替身） 难到她不知道不能吃喝别人给的东西吗 尤其是生死不两立的对手给的 再讽刺的是 这么苦逼的日子 都还是争着活下去哭下去 最积极的时光反而是为了杀死替身而训练的一段 最有趣的一点是教练说的互惠互利交换 俩人外套一脱 开跳 起 果然是小粉没看错1869
女人苦，下水道里遇老鼠
一堆人在那瞎分析，对电影过度解读。很明显克隆活了下来。本体的转变过于生硬，导演故意制造悬念，实则不和逻辑
女主某些镜头蛮像Sophie Turner
很多冷幽默，还挺有意思，最后的开放式结局，想要解读也各有趣味。
喜欢这个概念，不喜欢这个故事。概念很有新意，我是俗人，更喜欢相互打杀的那种商业片。
女主性格是有点轴，但是被妈妈，男友放弃，很心碎吧。
人生就是一杯咖啡，闻着是香的，尝起是苦的。
问题2，为啥copy要装成original呢？
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