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A brilliant and outragously funny satire of society, 7 December 1999
Author: Dave Joerg ([email protected])
"Flodder" is one of the funniest movies ever made and few people realise that it is a Dutch movie made by none other than the Holland version of John Carpenter, the famous Dick Maas, author and director of the thriller "Amsterdamned". The Flodder family is the reincarnation of the term a-social. When the whole family bunch, basically all bastards, criminals and sluts must be relocated from their City slum because of toxic waste under their house, the city council house no choice. The only available space is in the "Zoendal" - the "Sun Valley" the best area in Amsterdam where all doctors, snobs and businessmen can afford to live their lives. And where the central point of interest and politics is the tennis club of the community. The Flodder family brings devastation to the tranquil world that ruled before. They are simply unbelievable. The characterisation is incredibly funny, beginning with Ma Flodder who searches other people's trash cans for food or making illegal liquor in her cellar and ending with the eldest daughter who is the biggest slut on earth. Together they make the most horrible family imaginable, a sort of immoral mirror image to the Brady Bunch or the Waltons. When the City counsel of Amsterdam hoped that the Flodders would show their good will to be more civilised in their new area, it turns out that Holland's most famous family would rather bring out the worst in the rich people of "Sun Valley"-wonderland. The rest is a hilarious, brilliant and well made social satire that can be watched as a provocative movie as well as a straightforward comedy. Dick Maas at his best. I salute him! Flooder was the Dutch smash hit in 1986 and brought two sequels and a tv series. All of the sequels were nice but not as great as the original.
Flodders (1986) is available on DVD in Germany in a dubbed German version in Dolby Digital 5.1. under the name:
"Flodders -Eine Familie zum knutschen"
Why is First Floor Features, the producer of the movie not bringing the Dick Maas blockbusters out on DVD in the Netherlands, I wonder. The are not even available on video there. These movies have so much potential, still to this day and have a huge silent but true following.
一部令人不寒而栗的电影。当目标是荒谬的时候，一切高效率的国家机器，先进的科学技术，都只会造成更大的灾难。
1942年纳粹德国在万湖一栋别墅里，召开了一次会议，决定了犹太人总体解决方案。此部电影即精确地还原了此次会议的过程。如果对那段历史熟悉，且对纳粹高官有基本了解，此片还是非常精彩的，从中能看到纳粹们相互间的唇枪舌剑与勾心斗角，还能一窥纳粹高层的决策过程。万湖会在二战史中亦算一次重要会议，此会之后犹太人的命运更加悲惨，并大规模被灭绝。阿伦特所写的艾希曼，在此片中亦有出现，他在一众高官中只是一个小人物，不过其如机器一般的快速、准确、不带感情，给人留下深刻印象。
他们面无表情地讨论种族清洗和大屠杀，讨论二分之一和四分之一的犹太人该不该死，讨论国防军和党卫军中的犹太混血该不该死，讨论清洗犹太人的地理顺序，会担心起义和暴乱，讨论如何运送、如何执行，枪决方案因被认为会影响自己人的心理健康而被否决，最后决定用毒气“十五分钟内完成”。后面发生的事情我们就都知道了。
生活在2022 回看80年前 恐怖依然存在于我们身边
一群拥有高贵德意志血统的人，在讨论如何将“大规模的屠杀变成一种按部就班的工业操作”…
这不过是一次会议，能拍得令心动魄实在不容易。还有不少这样的会议，以后也值得拍一拍。
叙述清晰，电影用主角之道编写一生，可惜就是比较简单缺少剧情的冲击
另一个角度，抛开历史看，德国人确实高效，精密仪器一样，整个会议太高效，无论是会议前的准备，还是会议中的讨论以及结论的达成。
开会最可怕 尽职尽责，冷静，守法的开会讨论种族灭绝，则更加可怖
最近日本动画导演脑子里是不是连“曝光”和“景深”的基本概念都没了，“轴线”也是用不上的过时处理品了。哎呀。
。“远程无接触的屠杀可以减少执行者的负罪感”，德三真是把人性玩明白了。虽然这段历史早已耳熟能详，但是再看一遍仍然触目惊心。
从万湖会议,以商讨着欧洲新秩序,加上帝国版图,渐渐深入的讨论,屠戮犹太人,针对,混血犹太人,从二分之一德意志犹太混血,到四分之一混血,最后还是为了维护,除掉那么大批次犹太人的德国人精神健康,全然不顾,正义人伦,民族果然有壁垒,也永不可能平等,不过伴随着,东进苏联的败北,惨重的上演了,悲剧的柏林沦陷,战争的代价,两百万柏林女人沦为战利品,而后十年德国经济复苏,牺牲了十多年的生育工具,多么惨痛,日本人可能不会拍出来,也只有德国在反思
我绝对是音乐剧的拥泵，实在是原创，场面调度一流，是一个人的传记，生活有起有伏，但主流还是低落
非常精彩，年度最佳候选。编剧的台词功底令人折服，严谨到几乎滴水不漏。戏骨们飙戏飚的忘我，连续且毫无破绽的演出值得玩味。固定空间内纷繁登场、性格迥异的高官之间为争夺各自利益的唇枪舌战，不顾脸面厚颜无耻的讨价还价，小集团之间的相互拉扯与斗智斗勇。在100分钟内，电影将那场臭名昭著的「恶魔会议」铺平展开、逻辑清晰且高潮迭起，人物性格、时事进展、世界局势被一一呈现，酣畅痛快，淋漓尽致。观影之余不禁感慨，1100万犹太人的命运，仅由15个人，在短短的九十分钟内就做了决定。何等仓促，何等讽刺，何等残暴，何等悲凉。
看了太多二战电影，一直不理解希特勒为什么那么恨犹太人
前传啊！加上剧一块都还是太短了完全看不过瘾怎么办
“历史选择了我们这一代” 对这种绝对信念感天然有一种恐惧，无论当下看着是好是坏
@Toho新宿IMAX 老同事家网速快，开票当天花了半个小时抢到了IMAX最好的两个座儿，让我在这里用中文再谢一遍好同事。
在当今日本漫画届，最接近和承袭日本黄金时代漫画故事框架和霸气的就是这部咒术回战，当然，黄金时代这样的漫画大把，而且都是长连载，这个咒术回战才刚出几辑就被发掘了，也说明日本漫画的整体实力目前其实是低谷。
知识普及教育！终于对很多既往的电影有了新的认识！
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