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A brilliant and outragously funny satire of society, 7 December 1999
Author: Dave Joerg ([email protected])
"Flodder" is one of the funniest movies ever made and few people realise that it is a Dutch movie made by none other than the Holland version of John Carpenter, the famous Dick Maas, author and director of the thriller "Amsterdamned". The Flodder family is the reincarnation of the term a-social. When the whole family bunch, basically all bastards, criminals and sluts must be relocated from their City slum because of toxic waste under their house, the city council house no choice. The only available space is in the "Zoendal" - the "Sun Valley" the best area in Amsterdam where all doctors, snobs and businessmen can afford to live their lives. And where the central point of interest and politics is the tennis club of the community. The Flodder family brings devastation to the tranquil world that ruled before. They are simply unbelievable. The characterisation is incredibly funny, beginning with Ma Flodder who searches other people's trash cans for food or making illegal liquor in her cellar and ending with the eldest daughter who is the biggest slut on earth. Together they make the most horrible family imaginable, a sort of immoral mirror image to the Brady Bunch or the Waltons. When the City counsel of Amsterdam hoped that the Flodders would show their good will to be more civilised in their new area, it turns out that Holland's most famous family would rather bring out the worst in the rich people of "Sun Valley"-wonderland. The rest is a hilarious, brilliant and well made social satire that can be watched as a provocative movie as well as a straightforward comedy. Dick Maas at his best. I salute him! Flooder was the Dutch smash hit in 1986 and brought two sequels and a tv series. All of the sequels were nice but not as great as the original.
Flodders (1986) is available on DVD in Germany in a dubbed German version in Dolby Digital 5.1. under the name:
"Flodders -Eine Familie zum knutschen"
Why is First Floor Features, the producer of the movie not bringing the Dick Maas blockbusters out on DVD in the Netherlands, I wonder. The are not even available on video there. These movies have so much potential, still to this day and have a huge silent but true following.
谁tm说主旋律不能搞艺术/艺术片不讲主旋律？
电影是好电影 但 院校排片都在大早上 真的煎熬
电影是资本的聚合体，没钱真的拍不了。取景美的很，但台词剧情演员甚至场景调度都是灾难。
就真的还好 影像上是有些有意思的想法 不过也不能指望主旋律有多少出格吧
我觉得电影的基本还是要有一个好故事并把它讲好。
啥玩意，画面都快看不清了。这方言对话，像湖南，又有点像江浙，快分裂了～
一部很取巧的电影，巧在很懂得回避自身的弱点，用混乱的战场动作调度来回避演员特写中的演技不足，用云雾缭绕的水乡景色来回避了设备成本有限，用颇具个性的调色来填补镜头语言的缺失，用戛然而止的结尾回避过往战争片苍白的说教，好评给在为内战作出的一点点冷静化反思，以及在这个被“青春恋爱精神病片”群体包围的后疫情时代院线里能看到不一样的创作。
剧本在中途割裂严重，不懂小朋友死了之后，两位大哥为了执行军令打架之后，小团体突然能够团结一心炸白匪这样的叙事逻辑，说到底还是把叙事让位给了个人英雄主义，主旋律的表达，毕竟片子需要党史顾问的指导。电影在形式上努力往水墨画，诗意电影靠拢，但有些部分的色彩用得很割裂，并且让观众在那么暗的情况下去辨认角色，确实有很大的观影门槛。
开头15分钟的节奏十分缓慢，伴随着昏暗的画面真是十分好睡，差点没绷住（旁边大哥睡了全程，点头点的像听课一样），电影开场想取'势'，却丢失了'质'，人物快速的出现搭配大片阴影的画面让角色无论从外形还是性格上都难以快速让观众记住，导演说想要着重电影语言的塑造，声音设计尚可，但是从镜头与调度来看泛善可陈，甚至略显单调。
6.5' 内地公映版｜
的确是一部非常有风格特色的影片，20220604浙江特别献映场，中国美院的这位编剧老师人超好，特别温柔解读非常到位，还有导演，以及监制万玛才旦，和摄影师的映后解读，后悔没一开始就录音，开始记录晚了。也加深了自己对于电影似真似假如一场梦般的理解，对诗性的认识。为了营造真实，降低了饱和度，多场看起来会有近似黑白的感觉，幸运还是临境杜比全景巨幕的观赏，仿佛能想象遗憾没能大荧幕看的《智齿》在影院能给到观众的强烈视觉震撼力了！对于影像的深深魅力继续不断学习慢慢领悟。
但与电影主流文化看上去有些许“另类”
美术功底见长影片的通病：画面颇具美感，剧情处理粗糙。结尾的血雨设计有画面冲击力，但主旋律和诗意难以共存的问题仍然没有得到调节。后期方言配音是最初的设计还是为了中和演技的不足？/现场交流难受得让人扣一分
跟老师聊：一个给7.4，一个直接认为半成品。 声觉问题真的明显，一些音响的空间感以及配合度都很差（造成这个技术缺陷的理由极其离谱），但德格才让的音效音乐做的很好。 刘智海导演本身的调度没问题。芦苇荡大战一段别出心裁，喜欢；三次幻觉设计也所指清晰，没有硬伤。 主演是朋友，演技精彩，也下了苦功夫，但就是整体亮度太低，损失了大量面部细节，减损了演员的发挥空间（太暗也有一个离谱的理由，不是出于美学需求…）。 整体我个人挺喜欢，全程也没跑神。
形式大于内容的典型，剧本太差了以致于对故事和人物几乎没留下什么印象
前面觉得一般，结尾还是有被震撼到。美院也是把风格化做出来了。还有，终于懂为什么北影节要把“红军与白军”改成红与白了。
人物形象感觉并不是非常立体吧……冗长的镜头和重复的枪战占据了大量时间，从诗意角度来说，1917带来的战争美学更为深刻。有点类似于摔炮和大型烟花的区别。疲劳的观影体验，没有带来深刻的情感共鸣。已经诗意ptsd了…
一致反映是政府看了会觉得不太满意，被骗钱了哈哈
美术摄影都挺在线，国产战争片里为数不多能看的，光影运用这方面不及《1917》，色彩调度又比不上《影》，各方面显得都挺用力，过犹不及啦，给点人情分3.5/5
前面觉得一般，结尾还是有被震撼到。美院也是把风格化做出来了。还有，终于懂为什么北影节要把“红军与白军”改成红与白了。
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