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A brilliant and outragously funny satire of society, 7 December 1999
Author: Dave Joerg ([email protected])
"Flodder" is one of the funniest movies ever made and few people realise that it is a Dutch movie made by none other than the Holland version of John Carpenter, the famous Dick Maas, author and director of the thriller "Amsterdamned". The Flodder family is the reincarnation of the term a-social. When the whole family bunch, basically all bastards, criminals and sluts must be relocated from their City slum because of toxic waste under their house, the city council house no choice. The only available space is in the "Zoendal" - the "Sun Valley" the best area in Amsterdam where all doctors, snobs and businessmen can afford to live their lives. And where the central point of interest and politics is the tennis club of the community. The Flodder family brings devastation to the tranquil world that ruled before. They are simply unbelievable. The characterisation is incredibly funny, beginning with Ma Flodder who searches other people's trash cans for food or making illegal liquor in her cellar and ending with the eldest daughter who is the biggest slut on earth. Together they make the most horrible family imaginable, a sort of immoral mirror image to the Brady Bunch or the Waltons. When the City counsel of Amsterdam hoped that the Flodders would show their good will to be more civilised in their new area, it turns out that Holland's most famous family would rather bring out the worst in the rich people of "Sun Valley"-wonderland. The rest is a hilarious, brilliant and well made social satire that can be watched as a provocative movie as well as a straightforward comedy. Dick Maas at his best. I salute him! Flooder was the Dutch smash hit in 1986 and brought two sequels and a tv series. All of the sequels were nice but not as great as the original.
Flodders (1986) is available on DVD in Germany in a dubbed German version in Dolby Digital 5.1. under the name:
"Flodders -Eine Familie zum knutschen"
Why is First Floor Features, the producer of the movie not bringing the Dick Maas blockbusters out on DVD in the Netherlands, I wonder. The are not even available on video there. These movies have so much potential, still to this day and have a huge silent but true following.
温柔有力，阿莫多瓦作品中少见地延伸至历史领域，个体的成长与故土的羁绊交织，尽管两条叙事线融合得不够自然。是的，阿莫多瓦爱着他的每个角色，特别是女性，她们的历史和将来，在宏大背景中的战斗和日常生活中的挣扎，每个细节都刻着生的印记，有人离开，就会有人留下，面对创伤时虽然有泪水，但毋庸置疑的是温暖会延续。
和西班牙大叔hookup一起看的，看完他哭了。。。
虽说看得出阿莫多瓦是想用平行母亲婴儿呼唤这个曲折情节来以小见大投影出祖先血脉不可磨灭的历史，但似乎并没有很好地结合。
开了一个脑洞，如果和佩德罗差不多大但经历更坎坷的老谋子再拍一部严歌苓式的电影：一双在十年动乱中相爱相杀的女人又在“只生一个好”政策的时代鬼事神差地重逢，命运嘲弄又让两人各自从自己的母亲那里挖掘出五六十年代的苦难回忆……尤其是看到片尾“历史不会沉默”时
阿莫多瓦。：“就我而言，要了解一个国家的历史，我更依赖于我看到的小说和电影，而不是历史书……艺术是了解历史的最好方式。这就是电影具有重要意义的所在。
用一个老生常谈的戏剧冲突进行陈述，继而携带出看似毫无关联的、更为深远的一个主题。将旁枝描绘得丰满翔实，栩栩如生，而内里包裹着的真正的主题却显得格外单薄与克制。真实主题用侧面描述的方式呈现。影片用大量的篇幅去呈现同一间病房抱错小孩这件事以及之后所产生的连锁反应，实在有些老套，甚至是连八点档婆媳电视剧都不想再用的老梗。好在佩内洛普演技不俗，尤其是在另一新人女主的衬托下更显难能可贵。阿莫多瓦固有的美学功底没能发挥出应有的水平，但是佩内洛普凭借自身的表演将电影的质感重新又拉回来几分。最后一帧镜头确实不错，大屠杀虽已成往事，而幸存者永受其摧残。黄土销埋白骨，往事历历在目。｜7.0
对于Janis在最开始得知真相时候的退缩，我也不太能理解……有点超出了我的共情范畴
从我的角落里走出来
阿莫多瓦的野心蛮大 想要在保留其所擅长的女性情谊的同时加入更厚重的历史 不过主题过多，在其所擅长的部分用力过多 并没能完美协调
命运奇情与历史厚重有少许割裂。除此之外，依然是阿莫多瓦的味道，少了跳跃惊悚，多了从容匠气。稍微失望是配乐有点满。3.5
视觉上瓦导从来不会让你失望，依旧灿烂明媚的色彩和阳光；故事上轻描淡写了一段本该沉痛的情节，然后就没有然后了…历史伤疤一条线，也有差口气的感觉，似乎是欲辩已忘言
唉，这一次，阿莫多瓦的痛感没能触动到我。一如既往很棒的开篇，期间每一帧都像平面设计作业的画面，令人默默震撼的结尾——但失败1⃣️是故事本身构造得太勉强，失败2⃣️是ZZ、历史素材的叠加太勉强。别的不说，女主最初发现不是亲生孩子时，第一反应为啥不是正常人会有的“赶紧去看自己的孩子”、甚至“赶紧换回来”？（她那时还不知另一个孩子猝死）毕竟孩子才几个月大，又不像《如父如子》那样已经共同生活了好多年了。完全不合逻辑啊……
抱错孩子找对娘…？以为是要讲超越血缘伦理性别的新型家庭关系，最后又落脚到继承历史记忆，到底是要笃定两支棉签告诉你的结果呢，还是不必拘泥于此？想不太通。
其实挺好的题材，却到后面匆匆结束，前半部分和后半部分像两个完全不相连的故事。这不太像阿莫多瓦一贯的水准。
三星半 同样说拍这种通俗情节悬念剧，似乎阿莫多瓦无非就是比欧容更会升华
不能忘却历史的同胞，应如难以忘却我们的孩子一样。
一共两条线，狗血的那条线处理得很轻易，没能感受到两位母亲自己描述的那种“撕心裂肺”
三星全给女演员们
虽然展现女性育儿的艰辛取舍，异性的伤害和责任等方面，但框架还是俗套的未婚先育，初尝禁果，出轨抛弃等狗血内容。影片里相互的关怀让两人拥簇，意外的失误让悲伤易位，一开始我就害怕从正常剧情片变成姬片，果然还是发生了。主线虽然是人文考古，但其他元素都有掺和，没有太多冲突，故事性不强，有些无聊。
一边是下一代的乌龙延续，一边是对上代的追寻与祭奠。阿莫多瓦对红色的运用炉火纯青。最后一个由骨架变成有血有肉的人体镜头震撼人心，那些躺在坑里的骨架，他们曾经都有血有肉。而如果不被挖掘出来，灵魂不得安宁，战争不会结束。
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