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A brilliant and outragously funny satire of society, 7 December 1999
Author: Dave Joerg ([email protected])
"Flodder" is one of the funniest movies ever made and few people realise that it is a Dutch movie made by none other than the Holland version of John Carpenter, the famous Dick Maas, author and director of the thriller "Amsterdamned". The Flodder family is the reincarnation of the term a-social. When the whole family bunch, basically all bastards, criminals and sluts must be relocated from their City slum because of toxic waste under their house, the city council house no choice. The only available space is in the "Zoendal" - the "Sun Valley" the best area in Amsterdam where all doctors, snobs and businessmen can afford to live their lives. And where the central point of interest and politics is the tennis club of the community. The Flodder family brings devastation to the tranquil world that ruled before. They are simply unbelievable. The characterisation is incredibly funny, beginning with Ma Flodder who searches other people's trash cans for food or making illegal liquor in her cellar and ending with the eldest daughter who is the biggest slut on earth. Together they make the most horrible family imaginable, a sort of immoral mirror image to the Brady Bunch or the Waltons. When the City counsel of Amsterdam hoped that the Flodders would show their good will to be more civilised in their new area, it turns out that Holland's most famous family would rather bring out the worst in the rich people of "Sun Valley"-wonderland. The rest is a hilarious, brilliant and well made social satire that can be watched as a provocative movie as well as a straightforward comedy. Dick Maas at his best. I salute him! Flooder was the Dutch smash hit in 1986 and brought two sequels and a tv series. All of the sequels were nice but not as great as the original.
Flodders (1986) is available on DVD in Germany in a dubbed German version in Dolby Digital 5.1. under the name:
"Flodders -Eine Familie zum knutschen"
Why is First Floor Features, the producer of the movie not bringing the Dick Maas blockbusters out on DVD in the Netherlands, I wonder. The are not even available on video there. These movies have so much potential, still to this day and have a huge silent but true following.
全程都在探讨一个问题 程序正义是必要的吗 金句频出 然而分了三次才看完 实在是太闷了 要不是四分之三的反转就打三星了
三个男主都是熟脸，一起上演尔虞我诈的韩国总统选举的大历史。
很久没看到这么精彩的电影，讲的是金dz和他影子军师的故事，每个人刻画的都非常丰富，还讨论了目的和手段的哲学问题，还有大篇幅的对选举过程纪实，又巧妙的把过程戏剧化，节奏也不错，再加上演员精湛的演技。这部电影无可挑剔，个人认为评分应高于《南山的部长们》
难以置信竟然有政治家觉得要光明正大赢得选举
反而是男主比较可爱，为达目的不惜利用一切手段为了赢得选举，日光之下，并无鲜事，这几招现在都还在用，感觉像是在讽刺政治选举，都不知是黑还是捧了……
难以置信竟然有政治家觉得要光明正大赢得选举
别人开启民智的时代，我们没有沉默，我们选择了倒退。
韩式工业化政治商业片，剧情流畅，水准在线，但是缺点也同样一目了然。徐昌大的角色形象无疑是成立的，但是对于他所坚持的手段作风，金云范和他的选举团队的反应却是前后不一的，知根知底却在关键时刻反对“演戏”，那不是虚伪即是虚假了。这种逻辑上的矛盾问题，暴露出的是剧本的欠缺打磨，铺垫不够，顺拐来凑，也直接损害了片尾那一番交心谈话的力量。
两位男主都太纠结太拧巴了，残留着理想主义是不是一种政治上的幼稚病？韩国电影还保持着对政治惊悚和历史题材的热情，也是世界影坛的幸事了
按照电影中的主题，我们能不能用以牙还牙，以眼还眼的招数去还击？如果用了同样的方法，那么是否背离了自己的初衷？这是一个很让人值得深思的问题。
假装的理想主义者和真正的务实主义者，没想到务实者也有天真的时候 选举是可以操纵的 独裁统治下竟然还有言论自由 故事太平淡了，感觉造王者也就是只会刷点脏手段而已
不知道评分为什么这么低？明明很好看啊，就是字幕太乱了，有时候靠猜和上下文来理解。
既是解药也是毒药，金云范最终知道了影子的使用方法
这部电影来源于真实事件，但它是一部虚构作品。
卑鄙是卑鄙者的通行证，高尚是高尚者的墓志铭。不过一个只会喊口号，默许影子不择手段的人，还算是高尚者吗？
为了正义，
赵宇镇一句话四两拨千斤：你的主子一直被反对派称作“赤色分子”，那他有可能继续培养你这么一个脱北者吗？
在政言政，在腐败和激进的体制面前，理想主义注定无路可走。在野党的领袖金云范追求民主公正，没有正式的编制的智囊徐昌大一心谋求职位，用尽阴谋阳谋，在党内选举中反败为胜，在和执政党掰手腕的拉锯战中，政治策略的采用上出现不可调和的局面，加上一颗存在自导自演嫌疑炸弹案罗生门，让原本的应是“热恋期”的俩人分道扬镳，执政党收编了明珠暗投的徐昌大后赢得了大选，徐昌大也获得名正言顺的议员席位，实现草根人生从无到有的华丽逆袭，只不过曾经许下的豪言壮语化为泡影，立志打造民主时代的韩国梦成了镜花水月，春风得意又难掩空虚。多年后的俩人阔别重逢，脸上写满了风霜往事，如果我们没有固持己见，如果我们没有论迹不论心，我们是否早就携手缔造民主时代。可惜没如果，鸡丢了不重要，重要的是兜兜转转之后。能不能找回昂首挺胸的鸡。
竟然还可以，叙事没有太复杂，看着复杂的事情，还是讲的比较清楚。
虽然太脸谱，虽然过度维护金大中，虽然主旋律，虽然爽文，虽然开头鸡蛋寓言结尾17年后重逢都应该去掉，但是这里有很强的表达:“是否能够用卑劣的手段实现崇高的目的”。另外总是感觉得到全片都在说“zz是永远肮脏的，请远离zz”。
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