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A brilliant and outragously funny satire of society, 7 December 1999
Author: Dave Joerg ([email protected])
"Flodder" is one of the funniest movies ever made and few people realise that it is a Dutch movie made by none other than the Holland version of John Carpenter, the famous Dick Maas, author and director of the thriller "Amsterdamned". The Flodder family is the reincarnation of the term a-social. When the whole family bunch, basically all bastards, criminals and sluts must be relocated from their City slum because of toxic waste under their house, the city council house no choice. The only available space is in the "Zoendal" - the "Sun Valley" the best area in Amsterdam where all doctors, snobs and businessmen can afford to live their lives. And where the central point of interest and politics is the tennis club of the community. The Flodder family brings devastation to the tranquil world that ruled before. They are simply unbelievable. The characterisation is incredibly funny, beginning with Ma Flodder who searches other people's trash cans for food or making illegal liquor in her cellar and ending with the eldest daughter who is the biggest slut on earth. Together they make the most horrible family imaginable, a sort of immoral mirror image to the Brady Bunch or the Waltons. When the City counsel of Amsterdam hoped that the Flodders would show their good will to be more civilised in their new area, it turns out that Holland's most famous family would rather bring out the worst in the rich people of "Sun Valley"-wonderland. The rest is a hilarious, brilliant and well made social satire that can be watched as a provocative movie as well as a straightforward comedy. Dick Maas at his best. I salute him! Flooder was the Dutch smash hit in 1986 and brought two sequels and a tv series. All of the sequels were nice but not as great as the original.
Flodders (1986) is available on DVD in Germany in a dubbed German version in Dolby Digital 5.1. under the name:
"Flodders -Eine Familie zum knutschen"
Why is First Floor Features, the producer of the movie not bringing the Dick Maas blockbusters out on DVD in the Netherlands, I wonder. The are not even available on video there. These movies have so much potential, still to this day and have a huge silent but true following.
片头开始 忍不住想 两次大战怎么会如此密集地发生在这样的地方。这些年轻人如何进入战争 带着信念 不再回来。
看来Historical fiction就完完全全是我的菜。就喜欢这种虚实交替的感觉，虽然已经知道了结局，但仍然能被人物所揪心。还有那种历史大潮面前个人的无力感。唉，我又想把Fall of Giants再翻出来读一遍了
这种确实很难拍出新意。对张伯伦的翻案由来已久，在慕尼黑那种情况下他能做的确实不多；希特勒这状态怕不是四五年在柏林地堡，那时可正是趾高气扬的时候。主角偏年轻，演恰同学少年可以，白发谋国就有点儿不够看了。
当历史英耽看很好嗑。喜欢这类大变局前夕的电影。不过不同意片尾的文字，美化了。
中规中矩的历史片，如果不是剧情过于戏剧化让人出戏，几乎可以算得上很有质感了。对绥靖政策的放在当时历史背景下的解读不错，但是张伯伦试图赢得战备时间就纯粹是小说原著的无力解释了，毕竟德国才是充分利用时间完成战备的那一方。
烟盒明明还有还要“shall we share?”“I'd miss you”深情的“goodbye”看得俺老基动了，Jannis大漂亮分分钟都是hugo boss走秀啊，明明是主角为嘛演员表排老后呢
以前很看不起张伯伦，只是后来明白了一点，我们不能用后来人的角度和价值观来评判那时历史人物的决定。无论他信也好，不信也罢，既然战争无法避免，那能晚一些就晚一些发生吧，既然无力阻止豺狼野心，能少一些战火杀戮，就割地赔款吧（何况是割别人的）。至少他不想做那个主动挑起战争的人。关键的关键，当选民要求和平，就只能绥靖；当选民希望反抗，便成就了丘吉尔。德国小保罗，太幼稚
不枉我等了444天（ps.荞麦和杰西卡姐姐二搭开心）
紧张的氛围与紧凑的节奏，知道结局的我依然很慌张。最大的败笔在于不改变历史结局的前提下，对于保罗刺杀失败的处理。他压根就不会有这个机会。
强国分瓜弱国默，人微言轻逆势难。
虽然有喜欢演员不错表现但让人看不进去的改编历史剧。
歌相当好听。2022-4-27 00:21:04
慕尼黑协议被洗白为为了准备和德国战争准备拖时间的策略了？
故事把那个年代的人可能会经历的所有历史事件都套到了两位男主身上，还有模板式的人物设定和关键节点抉择，这编剧大概是看了几百本二战耽美同人吧，怎么能融合的这么丝滑？
一个德国人想阻止政治收复丢失的故土的故事，理由是祖国会更强大，因此会导致日后的战争。理由逻辑如此搞笑，骗看片人无思考能力吗？
这部电影的气质完全可以呼应《国王的演讲》。历史无法假设，历史中的人物所面对的，所选择的也是同样，坚持媾和所需的勇气也决不会低于开战。想起陈璧君被审判的时候对检察官说的那番“说汪先生卖国，重庆治下的地区，由不得汪先生去卖；汪政权治下的地区，是中国的沦陷区，也就是日军的占领区，并无一寸之土，是由汪先生断送的。在沦陷区是沦陷了的土地，只有从敌人手中争回权利，还有什么国可卖？”。电影里有句台词我很喜欢“我们不能选择自己生活的时代，我们唯一的选择就是如何回应”，共勉。
第一次在Netflix看片...想起剑桥五杰...想去oxford念书
故事张力尚够，悬疑紧张欠缺，罗伯特哈里斯的原著读起来应该不错
为了凸显两位年轻主演的伟光正，对张伯伦的刻画极为敷衍、毫不立体，至于紧张气氛和表演处理上也有些差，显得格外出戏和失真。
元首说为了争取生存空间。英国人让人有距离感。两个年轻人人突然变成了能扭转世界的最重要人物，叙事的手法很像《人类群星闪耀时》，但是重要的人物还是张伯伦，他的意思是面对混蛋我也只能陪他玩，然后在全世界面前出丑，其实是在妥协。最后男主回到家跟久违了老婆是要去参军，好残忍，但是那也是他对这乱世的回应方法，就像保罗没能出手杀希特勒一样真实，人在某个时候的全部情绪堆积而成的选择，真实而不容细想。
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